Nov 11, 2020
Jun 1, 2020
By Kevin Broughton
If Hellbound Glory’s Leroy Virgil were a pop-culture figure from the 1970s, he’d be Kool-Aid Man, bursting through brick walls or backyard fences and spreading his own weird brand of merriment. In the 2000s, he’d be a different LEEroy, sowing chaos and damning the consequences. In the 2010s, he’s the famous Honey Badger, because he just doesn’t give a…care.
And it’s precisely that “ZFG” attitude that makes him immune from convention and all its strictures, allowing him – along with alter-ego and producer Shooter Jennings – to make one of the best pure country music albums in years.
Following 2017’s Pinball, Virgil already had his next record (a “concept album,” though as we’ll see it’s a loose thing with him) in mind. In fact, Bird Dog was more than halfway written when Virgil and Jennings decided on a course correction spurred by Jennings’ hearing a demo for “Neon Leon.” Bird Dog would go to the back burner. It would take several more months of waiting on the producer’s schedule to free up, but the seeds of Pure Scum were germinating.
Even so, the time window would be tight. Like, three days, tight. They did it in two.
“Leroy’s diligence and patience are the biggest reasons,” Jennings says. “He waited to cut the record. We were planning to do it at the end of 2018, but he had to wait because I had all these other records and projects that were on deadline. We ended up not doing it until April (of last year), and because he had all this material, he just sat around singing and playing it. Just being Leroy.”
The result of Virgil’s just being himself is an album at times rollicking, other times poignant but always genuine and faithful to any objective standards of country music. His vocals continue to impress.
“In my opinion, he’s one of the greatest singers and songwriters in all of country music and has been for a long time,” says Jennings. “Leroy has stayed true to country music the whole f*cking way. I love the guy; he’s one of my best friends in the whole world. And honestly, he’s like MY hero. He’s what I wish I could be as a singer and a songwriter.”
High praise from country royalty. Let’s hear from the artist himself.
Ladies and gentlemen, Leroy Jenkins.
I mean VIRGIL Leroy Virgil…
Pure Scum is a really catchy title for your new album. I guess “Corona Virus” was taken?
Haha! That’s funny. Perfect timing, huh? I gave it that title about a year and a half or two years ago. But yeah, Haha. It just came to me: pure scum, old highs, new lows, damaged goods, hellbound glory.
“Ragged But Alright” is a nice sort of manifesto to kick the record off. The protagonist describes himself, among other things, as a degenerate gambler who’s drunk every night, a scumbag and a braggart. So how’s your self-esteem these days?
Oh, I’m finding new ways of being humble every day. I actually stole that song, to make it even more scummy.
Yeah, it’s from the 1920s.
You’re making this sh*t up.
No, really. It’s an old hillbilly song that’s in the public domain, so I took it and re-wrote it. It’s fine.
Who did it originally?
Everybody. Jerry Lee did it. George Jones did it. I forget the guy’s name who did it originally. Who cares who wrote the song; it’s just one of those that’s out there.
How biographical is this album, and did your mom really call you “Neon Leon?”
Uh, yeah…believe it or not, my name was gonna be “Neon Romilar.”
Neon Romilar. It’s a kind of cough syrup.
Okay…did Mom sober up before she signed the birth certificate?
I’m not sure. It depends on who you talk to.
Um, so the album: Autobiographical?
Oh! Yeah, without a doubt. It’s, uh…how do I put it? A reflection of my general style. Yeah. Maybe not “autobiographical,” but it is my style.
You did an interview with Rolling Stone just before Pinball was released and said about the title cut, “To me, it’s a song about life, the chaos of life.” This album’s fairly chaotic, too. Agree?
Ah, let me think about that. I don’t know, it’s a concept album, man.
What’s the concept, other than general scuzziness?
I think people just have to try to figure that out for themselves. If you listen closely to the lyrics in the songs, I think you’ll hear some similar themes pop up. You know…if you keep listening, you’ll get the themes, the concept.
Well, it all seems to fit together quite nicely.
Great! It’s all I listen to.
In the same interview, you said, “By listening to the album, people are going to have no idea how I feel — and I don’t want them to know.” How did you feel when you were writing these songs?
How did I feel? Well…how was I feeling…
Pretty damn good, actually. Pretty happy. Having a damn good time.
When we talked a couple of years ago, you mentioned that you had a steel player named Rico. You strongly implied that he was an illegal alien. Yet I recently came across a video of you, Shooter, Jon Anderson and Kelli Pickler at the Cash Cabin, having a good ole time. One of the players – lap steel – was identified as “Rico Peterson, Hellbound Glory.” I’m glad to see he wasn’t deported. I also note that “Peterson” isn’t a name typically associated with illegal border crossings. Do you have a new Rico? That would be a coincidence.
Now I’ve got a Chuck, and he’s from America.
Yeah. Utah, in fact.
Is Rico not a thing anymore?
You know, Rico’s…He had a baby. He knocked some chick up and he has a baby now.
An anchor baby?
[Giggles, hard] Yeah. It was time to get off the road for a while. Haha! An anchor baby! Ol’ Rico, you know, I wish him nothing but the best. I hope he’s found himself a place to post up and do whatever he does.
Shooter produced this album. Did he put the players together again, and where did y’all record?
We recorded it in Echo Park in Hollywood, California. And it’s just Shooter’s band. And that’s it.
It’s really well put together. How much of it did y’all record live?
You know what? Almost all of it. All of the vocals are live vocals. Almost all of the instrumentation. We did all of it in two days; two short days.
How much input did Shooter have about which tracks made the album?
Shooter was there as a guide. In fact, Shooter’s the guy who kicked off the idea for the album. I sent him the song “Neon Leon,” and he said, “This is better than what we’re doing for Bird Dog [an album that originally was to follow Pinball], so let’s go with this; let’s make something out of this song.”
So I just put it together. Wrote the songs – they all had the same theme – demo’d them, sent them to Shooter, sent them to the band. And we just pretty much played what was on the demos.
I don’t want to date you or anything, but you’ve got one of the best voices in all of country music. In a perfect world, several of the cuts on Pure Scum would be radio-worthy, but you might be a little rough around the edges for the mainstream. If you could pick one or two folks to cover your stuff and get it into the mainstream, who would they be? I know you’ve mentioned Kid Rock ought to cover some of your stuff…
Yeah, you know Kid Rock and I wrote a song together called “Why Can’t They All Be College Girls.”
Of course you did…
And you know, I think somebody like Josh Abbott could do that song really well. I’ve been trying to get him to cover “Why Can’t They All Be College Girls” for a while. The whole Red Dirt scene? They could all use some hellbound influence. I’d like to do another Tanya Tucker cut; that would be cool.
I guess Billy Ray Cyrus is the biggest thing going in country music right now.
Yeah? I guess I missed that memo.
You didn’t hear about this hit song he was on with Lil Nas X? “Old Town Road?”
No. And I can never tell whether you’re yanking my chain or not.
No, I’m telling you the truth! That is Billy Ray Cyrus! He is on that song.
I’m just spitballin’. I’d be interested in some other scenes…instead of just this Reno Scumbag scene.
“Scumbag.” Maybe that could be a sub-genre of outlaw country or something.
Hell, yeah, it already is!
Is anybody in that sub-genre besides you?
Yeah! There are differing aspects. I hear the scumbag influence in a lot of the bands coming around. But the Reno thing: We’re all about scum. There’s a professional wrestling tag team named The Reno Scum, and they’ve been around for like 20 years. Look ‘em up: “Reno Scum.”
I think I’ll be looking up a lot of things when I get off the phone with you.
It’s a real thing, dude. I promise. If you’re into wrestling.
I used to be. Is there a Reno rock scene, or a Reno music scene, other than you?
I’d say I’m definitely the biggest game in town, as far as bands go.
Do you have a regular gig, or a residency anywhere?
You know, I had a residency at a place called Davidson’s Distillery, and I’m sure I’ll be back there soon. But as far as the regular Thursday night deal, I haven’t done that in a while.
You know, the pantywaists who call themselves country artists love to sing about drinking beer in their trucks. I wonder if any of them would cover “DUI or Die?”
Well, somebody might actually die if they did.
Can you think of the exposure you’d get if Luke Bryan covered one of your songs?
I think that would be awesome. You know I think “No Service” would be a song that somebody could do really well. Are you familiar with that song?
I am not.
Look it up. It’s on Streets of Aberdeen. If somebody took that song and changed the beat up…it’s got great lyrics. Look it up: “No Service.”
So what’s the first single gonna be?
You know what? That one is a f*cking great song.
Well, don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back, there, Leroy.
Ha! It’s just a good melody.
Oh, I know. It reminded me of something from the Urban Cowboy soundtrack…
…just a very big, full, almost “country-politan.” A really good country love song.
You know, I’m almost certain that I ripped it off from somewhere; I’m still trying to figure out who I stole it from. But it seems like it had to have already been taken. You know what I mean? Doesn’t that melody sound like it might be another song?
It does! It reminds me of something, I just can’t tell what.
It’ll come to you when you get sued. When you read the summons, you’ll say, “Aw, yeah. That’s the song I couldn’t place!”
Bring it on, I say. If Led Zeppelin can get away with it, Hellbound Glory can.
Apr 29, 2020
Dec 5, 2019
Jul 18, 2019
Jul 16, 2019
“Old Town Road (Rerererereremix)”
Lil Nas X
ft. Billy Ray Cyrus, Young Thug, Mason Ramsey,
Kid Rock, Lizzo, Florida-Georgia Line, Bon Iver,
Steve Aoki, Willie Nelson, Wale, Travis Barker,
Kane Brown, City Girls, Future, Ed Sheeran,
David Guetta, Camila Cabello, Meek Mill,
Blanco Brown, Chase Rice, Migos, Saweetie,
Brooks & Dunn, Maren Morris, & Halsey.
Jun 19, 2019
Jun 17, 2019
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Apr 16, 2019
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Apr 11, 2019
I’m gonna be completely real with y’all. I haven’t been doing this column much in the past couple of years because I don’t know what the hell to tell you. Clearly, I don’t know how to write a hit country song in this era, so how am I supposed to give you advice? So, either listen to a bunch of Gavin DeGraw and write kind of sleazy but respectful songs entirely speaking to a generic “you” who is the woman you desire. Or… or, you can still go the bro-country route, only as long as you take the country part out. Bro pop? Shit man, it’s enough to make an established songwriter have to sell his stately manor with an elevator, runway lights, and 9 bars, and downsize to a measly million dollar starter home. And this Lil Nas X thing? That could change it all. Do I need to learn to rap now? Do I need to have Billy Ray Cyrus on all of Big & Rich’s songs? Can we say “boobies” in country songs now?? I’d have been dropping d-cups in every damn song if I’d known. And why do we have to let the singer have a credit on every song now? Just because Morgan Chase Russell added one trendy phrase to the lyrics doesn’t mean his handsome ass deserves a sixth. F**k that guy. Things are changing fast on Music Row and your space cowboy isn’t sure how to handle it. I’m thinking about just becoming a permanent Fox News correspondent. Politics is easy compared to Nashville now, bitches. Be careful out there!
*Not really by John Rich
Jan 30, 2019
Jul 31, 2018
Mar 30, 2018
by Robert Dean
Been grinding away lately. Burning the candle at both ends trying to get some creative projects to pop off while maintaining a busy writing schedule. Friday, I think I got a whopping four hours of sleep and at no point over the weekend did I ever get more than, like six.
In this week’s roundup:
Nathan Kalish dropped a new record, “I Want To Believe” that’s straight from the school of Conway Twitty and George Jones, but with a timbre that’s oddly satisfying. Kalish has an interesting delivery. “I Want To Believe” has an old-school sound that feels like tape; it’s unique, which is nice because, damn, I get a lot of stuff sent to me that sounds the same. Give Nathan Kalish a spin. It gives off the vibe that it’s a good record to smoke a joint to, which is always essential. Well, at least it is to me.
Caleb from Cave In died. This one is a sword right to the guts. I’ve loved Cave In since I heard "Until Your Heart Stops", a bonafide hardcore classic. It breaks my heart to know Caleb died in such a terrible way. We were about to have him and the boys from MA back in our lives and just like that; he’s gone. Life is bananas, kids. Love the folks around you hard, because the next minute, they could be gone. The older I get, the more real this becomes.
Please consider donating to his GoFundMe - dude is leaving behind a wife and two daughters. He wasn’t even 40 and a vet of the heavy music community for the last 20 years.
Devildriver is releasing a “country covers” album that sounds as exciting as oral surgery. Deftones are working on a new one; hopefully, it pulls some White Pony magic out of the ether cuz I haven’t liked a Deftones record in almost 20 years.
In other news that makes me want to stab a bbq spike into my throat, Godsmack is teasing a new video featuring Billy Ray Cyrus – two things the world a whole lot less of. Fucking awesome.
As always, Desus & Mero is the funniest show on tv. Yes, I’m hipster scum who watches VICELAND all day long while I type stuff for you lovely folks.
Turnstile is a band you should probably be listening to right now. Hardcore is evolving in a super exciting way. Knocked Loose, Harms Way, Code Orange, Jesus Piece, etc. There’s a lot of bands challenging the genre, and it’s a lot of fun to see these kids push the cultural dynamics in places other music is too afraid to. If there’s percolating artistry and anger in music that’s pushing boundaries for the better, it’s happening in hardcore music. Turnstile is cool because they’re mixing Snapcase with Gorilla Biscuits and even some Bad Brains, but it doesn’t feel throwback for the sake of doing so.
That’s it. Enjoy your weekend.